Wednesday, November 17, 2010

Posted on November 17, 2010 by not-sam

On Today’s Show: Sam chats with Atrios and Sarah Silverman makes a guest appearance.

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87 Responses to Wednesday, November 17, 2010

  1. jojo says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:24 am

    Sam the live stream is not working…. getting network errors.

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  2. mhappenow says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:30 am

    are you embedding the ustream player?

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  3. plooger says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:32 am

    Seem louder today, to anybody else, or do my volume controls just need adjustment?

    (Evan/Dorsey can ignore this message sans add’l evidence.)

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  4. mhappenow says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:33 am

    click on sammy cam

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  5. dan says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:33 am

    not idiots. the technical phrase is 1-dee-10-t

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  6. plooger says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:33 am

    Wanna communicate with The Majority Report?

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  7. Michael says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:34 am

    Sammy Cam Usstream ? Addy ?
    Thanks.. :)

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  8. Nefferkitti says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:36 am

    Hello peoples!!
    SammyCam
    fresh muffins
    and you peoples!
    not much sleep but its still a pretty damn good day!
    Coffee and Tea bar is open!!!

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  9. mhappenow says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:38 am

    I’m a Sederista!!

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  10. TKO says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    11:53 am

    Among the people making money off backscatter (body scan) machines: Michael Chertoff, who’s a paid spokesman for one of the manufacturers (but mysteriously doesn’t disclose that when he talks them up on CNN. Weird!).

    I’ve gone through a couple, and they’re terrible (arms up in the “I’m getting mugged” position. Pleasant). Also, they don’t work; I had to have the “enhanced pat down” anyway. All that money they’re throwing away could actually go toward making us safer, instead of that crap. I’ll just take the government-sanctioned ball patting from now on (unless that costs me $11,000, plus legal fees). You need not be a teabagger to be pissed.

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  11. Michael says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:02 pm

    Body scan me till I melt (or shrink)..

    Sounds like a title to a Eels song.. ;)

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  12. taozen says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:30 pm

    The iTunes hook up works well and Sam sounds clearly motivated .He must have had his Wheaties,or kasha go lean,no I think its that good coffee we need to start buying.

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  13. Sunshine Jim says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:34 pm

    Yay!

    Sarah Silverman is a superb comic i’m delighted to hear her.

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  15. Michael says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:39 pm

    Isn’t Colin Quinn kind of Right-ish ?

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  16. Sunshine Jim says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:39 pm

    Hey!

    wake up!

    you’ve got that clip sounding over the show!!!

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  17. James "Rolin" Stone says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:42 pm

    Look at Obama’s Harvard Law Review presidency, both leading up to and during his term. He talked compromise, but ended up capitulating. He’s another neo-lib like the Clinton’s. All our angst is nothing more than the humility you feel when you realize (somewhere in the back of your mind) you’ve been duped, and you want to believe you are smarter than that.

    I also think that anyone who really paid attention to the 2008 elections would have noticed Obama’s rhetoric changed after he won the Primary and beat out the true progressives who were his biggest threats. Kucinich and Stewart in particular. Of course if Ralph Nader had been able to get media coverage and allowed to debate, instead of being back-stabbed by the likes of Mike Moore, support-wise, and the Electorial commission (run by the two parties) keeping 3rd parties at bay, and finally the media almost completely ignoring him, and people could have heard him speak… I believe he could have been elected. I hope he runs again.

    But once he had those guys out of the way, then he changed tactics. By the time the General election debates started, his base was so enamored by his run so far that they became blind to those changes. Have a fact-checker look at the number of times he used the word “poverty” in his speeches and debates before and after the Primary. I think you’ll be quite surprised.

    And the final clue that should have been a red flag was when the talk started to appease Hillary with a cabinet position. Yes, some of that was tactical in order to keep the female lib vote, but I personally think it goes deeper and that it was more like “psst, psst, if you win…” and “or if I win”. And remember they did do that right on camera in one of the debates in reference to getting Edwards outted.

    The best thing we can do about Obama is the same thing we are telling Obama to do with his opposition: Get tough! It’s time we started vocalizing our disappointment, and quit trying to make excuses for him.

    At what point on your short walk up the gallows, getting your hands tied, bag over your head, rope around your neck, do you admit you’re screwed?

    Hell, I’ll quote or paraphrase Conde, but metaphorically, “We don’t want to wait until we see the mushroom cloud…”

    And as far as Bush goes. We’re giving him exactly what he wants: Attention. That goofy-assed MF could care less what you or I think of him. He’s part of a family that goes too far back (grandfather did business with Nazi Germany pre-US) and is too well protected to give a rat’s ass about public opinion, except to make sure he gets it. Buy his book and he’s the winner. Talk about him in the media and he sells books. It a no-win. We need to deal with him legally or forget him. Remove his effigy from the pillars of the tomb…

    Why the fixation with Stewart? Of what grand importance is he? Especially now that you know how far he won’t go? I say move on there too.

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  18. plooger says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    12:43 pm

    The “bus” comment was frickin’ hilarious!

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    • gloryoski says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      1:07 pm

      I liked right before and right after better. It’s all good tho.

      (I thought maybe the dropped call thing was a bit.)

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      • plooger says:
        Nov 17, 2010
        1:47 pm

        (I thought maybe the dropped call thing was a bit.)

        yes, a recurring Majority Report bit, wherein Sam struggles with technology. :)

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  19. Jmach1P says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    1:02 pm

    Super Funny Start to the show:
    Sam telling about the upper levels of MRR Membership :)

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  20. Sandy McGee says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    1:10 pm

    Morning/Afternoonie everyone –

    Sam is just to cute!

    I do want one of those wonderful mouse pads though!

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  21. Michael says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    1:28 pm

    Network Error on Audio player..
    Now audio anywhere here..

    Just like the old Sammy Cam..Ah Memories…. ;)

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  22. Bhikshuni Lozang Trinlae says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    1:38 pm

    How about subscriber VIDEO PODCAST like TRMS has!???

    I was already to get in front of Sam with 72 year old Mom at 11:30 am when motor vehicles department delayed us!

    Re Rolin Stone:

    I don’t think too many liberal progressives of post-JFK era are too shocked about the strength of Obama’s Summer’s-Getner-Sachs-Morgan connection!

    But I can’t believe anyone would be so brainwashed by Harvard Club buddies to not remember anything mentioned in the Kennedy School or Business School about BRANDING and not being able to see that associating Dems with BUSH TAX anything is the end of the Democratic Party brand (as we inherited it), PERIOD, FOREVER!

    Sure I may vote Obama again, but the free million-man phone bank campaign labor; they can kiss all of that good-bye if there’s no payback for my Past year of unpaid campaign efforts NOW!

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    • James "Rolin" Stone says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      2:50 pm

      That’s a thoughtful and well put reply. But a little puzzling. There’s that “Sure I may vote Obama again”. How many morechances can we afford to give him? Surely you just heard he reneged on Gitmo now too? And you must realize that his decision to allow American citizens to be targeted overseas? To be targeted anywhere for “alleged” crimes? Are we under Marshall Law now, Constitution and Jurus Prudence out the door, and we just can’t tell because the entire country has been under the Disney bigtop since September 12, 2001?

      There was a very good interview on Bill Moyer’s show during the campaigns of 08 where he had those impeachment lawyers for Nixon or Clinton or both maybe? I’m lost on the details, but they made a point about the unitary executive powers that Bush took on himself, even to start the wars. Their warning was that like buying stolen goods, if the presidential crimes and illegal powers were not reconciled before whomever took office, then they would inherit those crimes. The paradox they said was that they would also inherit the executive powers, and therein lies the rub. The Catch-22. The temptation for power. You don’t think Obama has that? Who could possibly seek such power as President of the most powerful nation that has ever existed on this planet, and not want it at the same time? Maybe a few in our lifetime could have come close (Bobby Kennedy, Ralph Nader), but this man has proven to me not to be him. The whole idea of let’s bide our time until the second term when we can really make change is an irresponsible gamble that I hope was vetted out couple of weeks ago by the reckless power of this Tea Party phenomenon.

      This president has broken every promise he made during the campaigns. Every meaningful one anyway, and he’s taken some of Bush’s most egregious policies and not just kept them, but expanded on them. Do we really want to take the chance that he will somehow “wake up” from this nightmare and turn things around before 2012? Are we prepared to allow this unchecked power to fall into another President’s hands 2 years from now if this current political trend continues to build steam and grow? Can you imagine a President Newt Gingrich with this kind of unfettered power?

      We should be asking these kinds of questions every day to everyone. Forgiveness and second chances are for people who don’t have this kind of power, or for the realm of Antiquity. How can it be otherwise?

      And yes, on the other hand we should probably temper our political intolerance as well. We probably just saw the other side of that coin having just been demonstrated in this election.

      And as far as the state of the Democratic Party? We’ve lost most all the last true Democrats as my generation defined the party. Ted Kennedy to Russ Feingold. Unless you don’t believe you can look at their political donors and get a good picture of who they are looking out for.

      In my opinion there are too many really good people who are misplacing their loyalty to a party or a person, rather than to a purpose or a cause where it should be. Or put another way, the loyalty to the cause should supercede the individual loyalty so that it doesn’t lose the necessary and constant critique an individual or party platform needs. It’s too easy to lose your vigilance when you allow it to become a relationship rather than a partnership.

      It shouldn’t be about “compromise” as much as it should be abut “co-operation”.

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  23. Sunshine Jim says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    2:53 pm

    i signed up, was fairly sreightforward.

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  24. Chris says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    2:58 pm

    I just signed up as a MajorityReporter. Hooray for me!

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    • Sunshine Jim says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      3:05 pm

      w00t a roo!

      where the hell is the swhagg list?

      i’ve been after Sam to mail me a MRR coffee cup for going on 6 years!

      (i broke my old one )

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  25. James "Rolin" Stone says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    3:07 pm

    Politico just reported Pelosi elected to Minority Leader. Am I missing something here?

    It really is “same shit, different day” or “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

    Maybe the Tea Party got exactly what they deserved: More of the same.

    I wish this all was some kind of college clique or fraternity, I’d just quit…

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    • Sunshine Jim says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      3:19 pm

      never seen an uglier american (goverment)

      thousands of flag suckers dreaming this all up on our tab!

      profanity is’nt enough to show how upset i’ve been for the last few decades.

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      • James "Rolin" Stone says:
        Nov 17, 2010
        3:37 pm

        “amen to that!” and from an atheist even!

        this reality could be a Douglas Adams story or something Terry Gilliam wrote or Monty Python, et el.

        it’s too frickin’ ridiculous to believe and yet…

        its getting pretty predictable too, not what THEY’ll do maybe, but just that THEY’ll do something even more audacious, dangerous and bad for US.

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  26. James "Rolin" Stone says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    3:39 pm

    BTW, it is the “people’s house” still isn’t it? Maybe we should push to have some kind of say in these positions. I mean when “power” is involved, is there anything else that can bring out the “child” in a person?

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    • Sunshine Jim says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      3:53 pm

      “something even more audacious, dangerous and bad for US.”

      oh baby. you hip to S.510? currently in front of the senate…

      corp control of the food supply ugly.

      http://naturalnews.com/030418_Food_Safety_Modernization_Act_seeds.html

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      • James "Rolin" Stone says:
        Nov 17, 2010
        5:06 pm

        Yes, I get alerts from Food & Water Watch and have been watching the GMO/Monsanto (among others) agri-business takeover since it’s beginnings during the Clinton administration. It is interesting (to me) how I stumbled onto it. I own a small screenprinting business that was doing much better in the early 90s than it is now. I’m also a designer and belonged to the Graphic Artist’s Guild to keep up with Copyright Law, etc. No one in government ever used to talk about stuff like that (except maybe to deny artist’s like me their rights) and suddenly in the late 80′s you started hearing the term “intellectual property rights”.

        It all had to do with patents mostly, but also Copyrights and Trademarks. For the benefit of big corporation, multi-nationals, etc. Globalization was at the heart of it and genetic engineering was in it’s infancy but was heavily invested in by the big chemical companies. Ironically I think it was Sony or someone like that in the music industry and on account of the CD-R that attention first reached DC on the subject of “protection”. But then Agribusiness grew out of that crossover from the chemlab to the farm field, bio-engineering and all that. The Food Modernization Act is a deathnail giving god knows what kind of potential control over our food supply to a handfull of too wealthy CEOs. even the name of the bill gives it away. Remember the other “modernization act” that gave us the financial crisis?

        Monsanto and the agribusiness as a whole already control something like 40% of the corn and soy worldwide and like 70-80% in the US. They have obliterated corn variety in Mexico and every day the wind carries their zombie seeds into clean fields and contaminate them. Monsanto has actually successfully sued Canadian farmers for “accepting” the contamination, when common sense would tell anyone but a modern judge that it should be the other way around. With the law on their side and a few good meterologists, all they have to do is strategically place their seeds around the world and after a couple of seasons, it wouldn’t matter if we woke up or not. It’d be too late. Oh and another downside to the “intellectual property” fiasco is that we allow these companies to go into the national seed bank and patent whatever the hell they want to.

        I just signed a petition the other week to stop our government from allowing companies to patent human genes. The Patent Office used to have the position that nothing living could be patented. Enough money can change anyone’s mind.

        Water is also at risk. Check out http://www.pickensplan.com/ for just one seriously dangerous example of how we may inadvertently give our US water supply away in the name of environmental concern. Pickens has a two-fold plan, and he’s a genius because either of them alone will make him even wealthier than he already is by an exponential factor. But it’s the other “hidden agenda” that will also give him untold power. All the land that he is scooping up in the midwest under the guise of building wind-farms lies over top of the largest water supply in the US…

        We are in deep shit on more fronts than we can remember on a daily basis. And for the first time in human history, there’s no place you can run. It’s like Meg Tilly in the “Body Snatchers” when she has been taken over and says to her husband, “where you gonna go, where you gonna run”.

        We live in a society where you’re really encouraged to cheat in order to have your Amerikan Dream. That’s what I really think they mean when they use the term “entrepreneurship”. But what happens is there Amerikan dream becomes our nightmare.

        Too bad they really weren’t building a starship in orbit back in 1970 and Paul Kantner, Grace Slick and the bunch went and high-jacked it and took us all away…

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        • James "Rolin" Stone says:
          Nov 17, 2010
          5:18 pm

          Oh yeah let’s not forget the FrankenSalmon that is also on congress’ plate right now. Plenty of petitions around about that too. And there’s been a long time fight with the FDA to make companies label ingredients better than they do. On account of them sneaking in rBGH (recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone) and other stuff on us. But instead the FDA just a couple weeks ago started issuing warnings to companies who were “over-labeling” by pronouncing they didn’t use GMO practices. In other words Monsanto and others complained to the FDA that it was unfair competition. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

          How nice if we could all make up the rules as we see fit? NO, it would just create chaos.

          Citizens United says it all if you want to know who our government is watching out for, period.

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  27. James "Rolin" Stone says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    5:24 pm

    This just out from an icon of critical thinking, Noam Chomsky:
    http://www.truth-out.org/the-us-elections-outrage-misguided65202

    And Bill Moyer the day after the election:
    http://www.truth-out.org/bill-moyers-money-fights-hard-and-it-fights-dirty64766

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    • James "Rolin" Stone says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      5:40 pm

      Just signed (might be my second time?) also will call my Senators tomorrow.

      Actually I didn’t realize it was going to the Senate this week. Not good. These “changing of the guard” moments, before recesses, etc. are always tricky times that don’t get the proper coverage from our “sensationalist” oriented media.

      “Report on something really important? Oh, please…”

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    • James "Rolin" Stone says:
      Nov 17, 2010
      6:21 pm

      No one has that kind of long sight in government except in regards to election cycles, and then the issues are governed by the corporate donor playbooks, meaning that they won’t be issues of policy but of personality.

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  30. kleven-stein says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    6:28 pm

    Grass Roots Radio (or podcasting). Everything contributed by fans? Awesome…

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  31. Mary Savage says:
    Nov 17, 2010
    8:16 pm

    Hi Sam! Welcome back to the airwaves! Keep up the fight to keep and strengthen Social Security! Thanks for the podcast. I will listen while walking along parts of the Walkin’ Lawton Chiles trail that meanders through parts of sunny Gainesville, Florida. Go Gators! :)

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  32. plooger says:
    Nov 23, 2010
    4:04 am

    re: mention at 15:45 of climate denialist… Bjorn Lomborg.

    Wrote a book, _Cool_It_, which is a current release movie of the same name.

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